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Steven Pinker -- The Stuff of Thought
Steven Pinker, Johnstone Family Professor of Psychology at Harvard, is currently promoting his new book: The Stuff of Thought.

One of Pinker’s main research areas is linguistics, and in the talk I watched here -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBpetDxIEMU – he talks about the different ways in which profanity is used. Why, he asks, when we spill a glass of wine in our laps, do we suddenly switch our topic of conversation towards excretion, fornication or theology? Why are these particular topics censored with such illogical hypocrisy?

He cites one particularly amusing example where Bono, the lead singer from U2, upon accepting a Golden Globe Award on live national TV, uttered the words: “this is really, really fucking brilliant.”

The case ended up at the FCC and they had to decide whether to fine the network for broadcasting the offending word.

They decided not to fine NBC, on the grounds that indecency is “material that describes or depicts sexual or excretory organs or activities” and that the fucking in “fucking brilliant” is “an adjective or expletive to emphasize an exclamation.”


Cultural conservatives were enraged and this bill was penned (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:h.r.3687)

House Resolution 3687

To amend section 1464 of title 18, United States Code, to provide for the punishment of certain profane broadcasts, and for other purposes.

A BILL
To amend section 1464 of title 18, United States Code, to provide for the punishment of certain profane broadcasts, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That section 1464 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by inserting `(a)' before `Whoever'; and

(2) by adding at the end the following:

`(b) As used in this section, the term `profane', used with respect to language, includes the words `shit', `piss', `fuck', `cunt', `asshole', and the phrases `cock sucker', `mother fucker', and `ass hole', compound use (including hyphenated compounds) of such words and phrases with each other or with other words or phrases, and other grammatical forms of such words and phrases (including verb, adjective, gerund, participle, and infinitive forms).'
Pinker notes that unfortunately the “fucking” in “fucking brilliant” is an adverb and that is the one part of speech that the representative penning the bill forgot to include on his list.



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[info]saaxton
2007-11-13 03:51 pm UTC (link)
As used in this section, the term `profane', used with respect to language, includes the words `shit', `piss', `fuck', `cunt', `asshole', and the phrases `cock sucker', `mother fucker', and `ass hole',

They forgot 'tits'.

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[info]uberjeep
2007-11-13 04:07 pm UTC (link)
How did they forget that? :)

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[info]rjlippincott
2007-11-13 05:46 pm UTC (link)
They forgot 'tits'.

Exactly what I thought when reading the list. George Carlin must be pissed.

Oh. Sorry. Said "pissed."

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[info]new_iconoclast
2007-11-13 04:23 pm UTC (link)
Technically, "fucking" is the gerund form of "fuck" and is therefore covered, even when used as an adverb.

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[info]uberjeep
2007-11-13 08:42 pm UTC (link)
It's obviously semantics but a gerund is usually used as a noun, although it is derived from a verb and in this case used to describe one.

Such an interesting word. Another thing Pinker describes is the "fucking patois", where fucking is used both as an adjective and an adverb in almost every sentence.

He gives an example of soldier speak:
"I spent four fucking years in fucking Iraq, fighting a fucking war, besieged by fucking terrorists and now I fucking come home to find my wife engaged in an act of copulation with another man."

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uggly name
(Anonymous)
2007-11-26 01:23 am UTC (link)
soldier's 'case' reminds me of a joke going something like this:

a man asks for permission of the appropriate authorities to change his name.
The clerk explains: You'll have to give a sufficient reason for changing your name.
The man: I simply don't like my name.
Clerk: What ist your name then?
Man: Steven Fucker.
Clerk: Ok, we'll change your name. What new name would you like?
Man: Robert Fucker.

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Re: uggly name
[info]saadiira
2007-12-11 01:30 am UTC (link)
ROFL.

-Dira-

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[info]irrsinn
2007-11-14 07:15 am UTC (link)
http://www.killsometime.com/animations/animation.asp?ID=47

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[info]saadiira
2007-12-11 01:33 am UTC (link)
And thus do we still get to hear on TV such words as 'bitch', 'tits', and, my personal favorite, 'dick', while at the same time two thirds of the double entendres we hear relate to sex, and the others to alternate bodily-related functions. It makes very little sense.

-Dira-

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Devils advocation
(Anonymous)
2008-01-31 12:59 pm UTC (link)
I hate splitting hairs (I lie - I LOVE splitting hairs!), but having a legal and linguistic background, I couldn't help but noting that although the "adverb" is not explicitly mentioned in this bill, the interpretation would still cover it. The fact that the the word "including" is used to introduce the parts of speech in brackets imples that it is not an exhaustive list, but can be extended.

Sorry for being such a spoilsport...

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Re: Devils advocation
[info]uberjeep
2008-02-04 01:22 am UTC (link)
Not at all!

Glad to have you.

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